Materialist assertions that consciousness simply arises from the complexity of matter are problematic. How does pure matter truly organize itself to deliver subjective experience and strong emergence?
hey, im wonderin if the rough dance of matter could really spark our inner subjectivity, or if theres more at play? what evidence do you think best supports such ties? lets dig a bit deeper together
im not totally sold on matter complexity crafting consciousness. emergent properties might be at play, but there may be hidden factors in physical interactions that we dont yet get. how else do we explain the self-aware algo beyond just atoms?
The materialist view, although robust in many respects, does not fully resolve the intricate problem of subjective experience. In my experience exploring interdisciplinary research, I have found that while network complexity appears to correlate with emergent phenomena, it falls short of explaining why and how personal consciousness arises. Our current understanding indicates that additional, perhaps yet to be discovered, principles might be necessary to bridge the gap between quantifiable physical properties and the qualitative aspects of self-awareness.
i think material complexity is only part of the story. while chaos can generate patterns, the leap to conscious experience might need some extra ingredient we haven’t defined yet. there’s still a long way to bridge the gap.
In my observation, the materialist approach can explain certain neural processes and emergent properties, yet it does not address the qualitative aspects of subjective experience in full. Although network dynamics and complex feedback mechanisms appear to give rise to consciousness, there remains a gap in understanding how these physical processes translate into rich, personal awareness. This suggests that while rising complexity may set the stage, additional principles—possibly undiscovered—from physics or philosophy may also play vital roles in bridging that gap.